Lots of thoughts on the film online much of it hyperbole. Its something of a small art film. Kinda remarkable they stuck a little indie movie up as a mega comic book movie. Its none of that. Its just a simple film about a mentally ill person going to crazy town and not coming back. Its like those movies like kpax or rain man or chronicle etc. I looked at it as very close to the fly but not on that level. Opinions are hot right now. Whats the reality going to say about it in years time. The big question does phoenix outdo heath or hamill.
I dont think he had ample time as joker to make a fair comparison but when he actually was just joker it was glorious. He needed to just be joker more thats for sure. Show him entertaining the thought of embracing being joker rather than him looking at it as a seperate underground movement.
He goes dark too quick too and thats kinda lazyily done. Its joker so he should be sick and demented but we dont see exactly where his desire to be so dark comes from except that he has a joker spirit in him. I think chronicle and even akira did the descent to evil better. Ultimately this movie is comparable to the likes of split or any slasher movie about a well... Psycho. Its all that stuff just with joker slapped on it but its good and works. Way better than venom and if they want to make small artsy films with popular comic characters im definitely down for it.
Ledger or phoenix... In purely a joker sense phoenix is better because hes not as cheesy but again not given any time to delve into his version so in a way they end up actually even in my mind. Ledger being too one note and phoenix being too un note. But if the movie was actually about joker be pretty amazing to watch that. I like ledgers joker but phoenix laughed better, worked harder at it. Didnt need to contort his voice. You do feel like his voice just fits joker.
Onto hamill vs phoenix. The real battle. It comes down to simply who injected more life into their joker and flare him up. Its close and I mean even phoenix probably didnt even try to beat hamill but he did seem to want to capture his soul and i enjoyed that. Hamill IS joker. If you want to do joker right just watch hamill. The scene with the gruesome death then act of kindness pure hamill joker. The cute looks and bouncy giddishness pure hamill. Hamill will forever be best joker ever but damn does phoenix bring it and gives us a peak at what a hamill style joker could be. Creepy goofy and unpredictable.
Well im gonna go now. I dont want this whole thing to turn out to be a joke.
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